Comments on: PaaV Podcast #11

By: Liz

Liz — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:02:01 +0000

JCF- I’m still confident that in the end, we’ll see a happy Otalia. However, I’m not so confident that I’ll actually believe the happiness on my screen. No if Natalia’s gone. I’ll let you hear 12 before I continue my arguement, but I plain old do not believe the characters this week. And its going to take a lot to get me back to a place where I believe them.

Who the hell let the Kim Zimmer fan club in here? RUN Dani RUN!!!
Haha. We love Kim!! We do. *nervous laughter* See fan club, see how much I love her?

Lynn, we have wardrobe comments. We weren’t going to because it was a big week, but we kept getting asked so we talked about it. lol

But WTH with all the Reva love here? You people are gross. lol

By: tallulah71

tallulah71 — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:46:06 +0000

That does make me happy. I can’t help myself. I grew up watching GL. I remember “Slut of Springfield” Reva. I’ll just close my eyes and hold on to that memory.

By: Lynn

Lynn — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:56:13 +0000

Can’t wait for paav12 to hear your wardrobe comments. And, wf given the choice between Marina and Ashley, I’ll choose Reva. That should make Tallula71 happy.

Hot snacks all around!

Lynn

By: tallulah71

tallulah71 — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:27:33 +0000

I’ve listened to all 11 paav podcast and I’ve made a discovery.

Dani is the one who got Natalia pregnant. Stay with me here. Both Dani and Liz have cracked on the wardrobe and props department about their less than stellar job hiding Jessica’s pregnancy. But, it was Dani’s open letter that got the bun in the oven. She told them we were thankful that GL hadn’t written in the pregnancy. That, my friends, was the ammo that the wardrobe and props department needed to get their revenge. Dani also gave them the idea of sneaking into JLH’s office and changing the script. Yes, Otalians, it was Dani, on the podcast, with an open letter.

Love,
The Kim Zimmer Fanclub

By: JCF

JCF — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:45:56 +0000

I swear, is anyone else suffering from OIBD? (Otalia-Induced Bipolar Disorder)

As soon as I posted the above (kvetch), I finished looking at the clip, and actually listened to the song playing while Olivia is “killing us softly”. The lyrics are ALL about “we’ll be stronger than before” . . . and I climbed back on the Hope-for-FANTABULOUS-Otalia-Happily-Ever-After Express!

…and then I checked some of my usual Otalia sites (the ones where I get Teh Pretty Picspam), and they’re all ledge-diving. Trying to kill my buzz, b*tches!

And the OIBD mood-swings continue…

By: JCF

JCF — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:29:47 +0000

Argh. I'm having another "suspend disbelief" moment from today's final installment of Week-of-Angstasm. Around the 5 minute mark of the second clip (Critic2000's, because Otaliafan's have been tetchy all week): resigned, weepy Natalia is sitting outside the Farmhouse, and a white car drives up. Blake's. Why the F@CK isn't that Olivia??? Blake has just told Olivia that Natalia's not coming to the BBQ (something implicitly has Gone Very Wrong), and that Natalia "doesn't want to see her." Is Olivia Freakin' Spencer going to go off quietly to corner of the Bauer Estate to weep, or isn't she going to do one of two things: 1) RELENTLESSLY pump Blake for information, or 2) burn rubber making a friggin' BEELINE for the FoL? [Re Jellybean, it's not like there aren't dozens of decent guardians, inc. her father, to whom Olivia yells "Watch Emma!" as she runs to her car] C'mon! >:-( This week, I think I've actually been less bothered by Is-She/Isn't-She K-U'd & Running-Away Nat, than Shiny, Happy Oblivia... [My HAWT Chica-de-Amor is puking for a couple of days, and *I* am getting her to the doctor myself. I'm just sayin'...] Well, there's nowhere to go but up, right? Right?! :-0 [Lie to me, if necessary]

By: JCF

JCF — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:33:15 +0000

Oh, I forgot: Marina, *IF* her lying/dissing mouth is “otherwise engaged”… ;-p

Now, time for another riperian dip in de Land of de Pharoahs…

By: Lana, Snapper, Whatever

Lana, Snapper, Whatever — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:54:35 +0000

Here’s the thing about the pregnancy story line – I know there’s a whole “team red herring” movement at that other site. I don’t know what the point is. I’m not specifically opposed to a pregnancy or baby entering Olivia and Natalia’s lives…I’m opposed to *any* sloppy, 11th hour contrivance designed to explain JL’s maternity leave. Let’s say there turns out to be no pregnancy, no baby…so what? The stupid, extended delay in Otalia’s progression will have *STILL* taken place.

I can think of half a dozen ways they could have worked around JL’s maternity leave. The writers want to keep some angst happening, and they *need* to find a way to have Rafe come around…why not have Natalia and Olivia finally share their first kiss at the Bauer BBQ, for all to see, and then have Natalia get badly injured in a car accident (on her way home from the BBQ, no less) and fall into a coma that places her in hospital during JL’s maternity leave? This would have 1) been a reasonable explanation for the lack of Natalia scenes (they could have filmed a bunch of Natalia-in-a-coma scenes in advance) 2) illustrated via Olivia a very real issue: how difficult it is for same-sex couples to even visit one another in hospital 3) caused big-time angst among viewers as they watched Olivia fight for the right to be beside her beloved, and kick herself for not having consummated their love when they had the chance, and 4) provided Rafe with an opportunity to see, for himself, that Olivia is ridiculously devoted to Natalia, and a way by which to come to terms with the fact that Nat and Liv belong together. Natalia could have come out her coma (or whatever soap opera injury/illness) when JL returned from maternity leave….just in time for Rafe to tearfully tell her he finally sees that she and Olivia belong together, even if he may never understand it. A plot device like this would have also given viewers an opportunity to see what the rest of Springfield really thinks about two women declaring their love for one another. Personally, I think they’ve totally missed a great opportunity to explore this – who are the homophobes in Springfield? Which neighbors are actually just fine with same-sex relationships? Maybe someone who’s ordinarily decent (like Rick) is skeeved about the idea of Olivia and Nat together. A plot twist such as this one could have brought Olivia back into the world of Springfield, and provided more opportunities for interaction with other characters.

They really missed the boat.

By: girlboston

girlboston — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:36:16 +0000

I cant wait to see what you guys talk about for this week.. I wish you were on every evening!

By: Diane

Diane — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:23:19 +0000

a few short comments -
first, I’m with all of you on the Storyline that Will Remain Nameless. I will remain hopeful because we’re in the middle of it all and I need to get through. I particularly like Liz’s take – they need to explain JL’s maternity leave, but they took the low road to do so. Well said. I think there’s a larger message here, much like how they’ve dealt with religion but still feels like the low road.

second – for dani – my partner agrees with you that cc’s comment about a “hopeful” ending is not particularly encouraging. i didn’t quite agree with her or you, but to pass the time, we’ve taken to viewing it through the hermeneutic of the GL-End Game Spoiler Clampdown, aka Actors STFU We Want To Keep a Lid on How We’re Going to Wrap 72 Years into a Nice Bow.

third, BMO!