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		<title>By: JCF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JCF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you ended up on the *one* scene I suggested (Mirror Scene), I obviously have no complaints. ;-) [Totally ho-yay on Olivia&#039;s Engagement Party Toast, too. Made of awesome!]

Damn, you guys have done another podcast now. Go away for 10 days, and it&#039;s hell trying to catch up! :-X</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you ended up on the *one* scene I suggested (Mirror Scene), I obviously have no complaints. <img src='http://pancakesandavalium.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  [Totally ho-yay on Olivia's Engagement Party Toast, too. Made of awesome!]</p>
<p>Damn, you guys have done another podcast now. Go away for 10 days, and it&#8217;s hell trying to catch up! :-X</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather- Its a date!

Vons- welcome to the vortex!  I love that scene (Oct 6), the way Crystal says &quot;spraaaaawwwwled&quot; alway makes me laugh!  Thanks so much for the sweet words.  We have a blast doing it (and I want pics from the Philippines!!)

Diane- I love the girls last fall!  Seriously.  Every episode was amazing.

Stargazzer- I love that scene too!  You&#039;re talking about the, &quot;Lets face it, shes a hottie&quot; scene, right?  Love.

Ashlee- it was honestly WAY harder than I thought it would be and we had like, 3 weeks to prepare.

Kish- you&#039;re awesomeness never ceases to amaze me.  :)

DJ- done and done

XO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather- Its a date!</p>
<p>Vons- welcome to the vortex!  I love that scene (Oct 6), the way Crystal says &#8220;spraaaaawwwwled&#8221; alway makes me laugh!  Thanks so much for the sweet words.  We have a blast doing it (and I want pics from the Philippines!!)</p>
<p>Diane- I love the girls last fall!  Seriously.  Every episode was amazing.</p>
<p>Stargazzer- I love that scene too!  You&#8217;re talking about the, &#8220;Lets face it, shes a hottie&#8221; scene, right?  Love.</p>
<p>Ashlee- it was honestly WAY harder than I thought it would be and we had like, 3 weeks to prepare.</p>
<p>Kish- you&#8217;re awesomeness never ceases to amaze me.  <img src='http://pancakesandavalium.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>DJ- done and done</p>
<p>XO</p>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  No way was that intro too geeky.  Put those titles on your business cards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  No way was that intro too geeky.  Put those titles on your business cards.</p>
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		<title>By: Kishiyaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kishiyaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you PaaV for always coming up with a brand new form of torture, I mean, fun. I loved this special pod, and it inspired me to try and tackle this mondo task, so here goes. These are my 10 (minus wedding week).

April 21, 2008 Not chosen, believe it or not, for first mention of tuna casserole, but for the story arc that goes to Liv being in the hospital.When Jeffrey arrives to ask what happened (see 7:40), Liv gives Nat a slight glance which Nat recognizes and then covers/protects Liv (mind you they still mostly hate/resent each other) but Liv gives the smallest of smiles in response – awesome! Non-verbal communication, FTW!

Oct 6, 2008 When I first heard of Otalia, I decided to hit up backstory first and landed on this ep as my very first. So its near and dear, but also holds lots of wonderful things, first, Natalia is a smart cookie and is good in a crisis, second, all the appreciative looks from Olivia, and how well she plays off Natalia to keep the ruse going, and of course “no poaching, she’s mine” hell yeah!

Oct 28, 2008 Great arc in early days of Nat working for Liv – I love the part at the top where Natalia plays with Liv over the suit description (yes, Nat likes to play) and elicits a great smile from Liv and then the arc to the end where Olivia says, “I could have done it without you, but it was much better because you were here” and then the brilliant smile by Nat in response. It shows sensitivity and caring, and this is Olivia, the boss from hell? Uh no, not where Natalia is concerned, like ever.

Dec 15, 2008 Just about a perfect episode arc – amazing (and intense) discussion between Nat/Liv over how the money was returned, and at what cost.  And could it end any better with Nat inviting Liv to live with her? Another glorious JL smile – are you sensing a trend?

Jan 2, 2009 Liz &amp; Dani do this episode proud! Only thing to add is I’m a sucker for Nat’s stealth sense of humor, ie,“That was close, the doors almost closed on [Emma]” which often seems to delight/catch Liv off guard.  A sure sign of love, does she make you laugh? uh huh.

Jan 13, 2009 – amazing ep with the whole kitchen exchange and then the confessions of “I thought you wanted to move out” so sweet, and cute – Nat’s look at 5:19 is one of my all time favs. awwwww.

Feb 4, 2009 – Olivia’s passionate defense of Natalia to Doris – CC does a brilliant job delivering this, and is it any wonder that after this speech Doris has zero doubt about Liv’s true feelings for Nat? She knows Olivia has it bad already even before she’s figured it out for herself.

March 11, 2009 – I adore this episode from everything that it contains (although some may dismiss it because Frank, gak, makes it to the kitchen table – nooooo!). Firstly JL acts the hell out of the kitchen/proposal scene (I’d love a PaaV breakdown one day), and her searching for Olivia in the house was heartbreaking. Then of course Doris at the gay bar –hello! Then Nat waiting for Liv on the porch (and of course she’s been waiting how long in the cold for her?) –I got a clear hit of a seductive/serious look from Nat to Liv which Liv tries to deflect, and sets up the kitchen discussion, where so much critical dialogue happens, which will echo wedding week. amazing ep.

March 26, 2009 – near kiss

May 6, 2009 – okay I chose this spa eppy for the suitcase fight. I know I’m weird, but as much as I adore the sweet, and tender moments between these two, these days I’m really needing to feel the passion that they had during wedding week. And so, we get it in a displaced sense with the suitcase fight, it was still awesome, and hilarious. And the fact that they can never remain mad at each other, makes me love them even more.

Bonus: so as a special form of torture, I made myself pick one day out of wedding week, which is pretty damn hard because Olivia’s graveside confession, albeit over the course of two epps, is as close to perfection as you can get.  But I chose April 13 because the snowy backdrop is so stunning, and JL’s delivery of “I love you Olivia” twangs deep in a special heart place for me. Also I needed to hear her saying to Olivia “You are everything to me” especially going into this week. Maybe I need to replay this for Nat too...

In case you want it, here it is via youtube &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=925E5BA4611E3F75&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kish Top 10 Playlist&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you PaaV for always coming up with a brand new form of torture, I mean, fun. I loved this special pod, and it inspired me to try and tackle this mondo task, so here goes. These are my 10 (minus wedding week).</p>
<p>April 21, 2008 Not chosen, believe it or not, for first mention of tuna casserole, but for the story arc that goes to Liv being in the hospital.When Jeffrey arrives to ask what happened (see 7:40), Liv gives Nat a slight glance which Nat recognizes and then covers/protects Liv (mind you they still mostly hate/resent each other) but Liv gives the smallest of smiles in response – awesome! Non-verbal communication, FTW!</p>
<p>Oct 6, 2008 When I first heard of Otalia, I decided to hit up backstory first and landed on this ep as my very first. So its near and dear, but also holds lots of wonderful things, first, Natalia is a smart cookie and is good in a crisis, second, all the appreciative looks from Olivia, and how well she plays off Natalia to keep the ruse going, and of course “no poaching, she’s mine” hell yeah!</p>
<p>Oct 28, 2008 Great arc in early days of Nat working for Liv – I love the part at the top where Natalia plays with Liv over the suit description (yes, Nat likes to play) and elicits a great smile from Liv and then the arc to the end where Olivia says, “I could have done it without you, but it was much better because you were here” and then the brilliant smile by Nat in response. It shows sensitivity and caring, and this is Olivia, the boss from hell? Uh no, not where Natalia is concerned, like ever.</p>
<p>Dec 15, 2008 Just about a perfect episode arc – amazing (and intense) discussion between Nat/Liv over how the money was returned, and at what cost.  And could it end any better with Nat inviting Liv to live with her? Another glorious JL smile – are you sensing a trend?</p>
<p>Jan 2, 2009 Liz &amp; Dani do this episode proud! Only thing to add is I’m a sucker for Nat’s stealth sense of humor, ie,“That was close, the doors almost closed on [Emma]” which often seems to delight/catch Liv off guard.  A sure sign of love, does she make you laugh? uh huh.</p>
<p>Jan 13, 2009 – amazing ep with the whole kitchen exchange and then the confessions of “I thought you wanted to move out” so sweet, and cute – Nat’s look at 5:19 is one of my all time favs. awwwww.</p>
<p>Feb 4, 2009 – Olivia’s passionate defense of Natalia to Doris – CC does a brilliant job delivering this, and is it any wonder that after this speech Doris has zero doubt about Liv’s true feelings for Nat? She knows Olivia has it bad already even before she’s figured it out for herself.</p>
<p>March 11, 2009 – I adore this episode from everything that it contains (although some may dismiss it because Frank, gak, makes it to the kitchen table – nooooo!). Firstly JL acts the hell out of the kitchen/proposal scene (I’d love a PaaV breakdown one day), and her searching for Olivia in the house was heartbreaking. Then of course Doris at the gay bar –hello! Then Nat waiting for Liv on the porch (and of course she’s been waiting how long in the cold for her?) –I got a clear hit of a seductive/serious look from Nat to Liv which Liv tries to deflect, and sets up the kitchen discussion, where so much critical dialogue happens, which will echo wedding week. amazing ep.</p>
<p>March 26, 2009 – near kiss</p>
<p>May 6, 2009 – okay I chose this spa eppy for the suitcase fight. I know I’m weird, but as much as I adore the sweet, and tender moments between these two, these days I’m really needing to feel the passion that they had during wedding week. And so, we get it in a displaced sense with the suitcase fight, it was still awesome, and hilarious. And the fact that they can never remain mad at each other, makes me love them even more.</p>
<p>Bonus: so as a special form of torture, I made myself pick one day out of wedding week, which is pretty damn hard because Olivia’s graveside confession, albeit over the course of two epps, is as close to perfection as you can get.  But I chose April 13 because the snowy backdrop is so stunning, and JL’s delivery of “I love you Olivia” twangs deep in a special heart place for me. Also I needed to hear her saying to Olivia “You are everything to me” especially going into this week. Maybe I need to replay this for Nat too&#8230;</p>
<p>In case you want it, here it is via youtube <a HREF="http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=925E5BA4611E3F75" rel="nofollow">Kish Top 10 Playlist</a></p>
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		<title>By: ashleelynn7</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so the fact that you guys even ATTEMPTED to make a top ten list out of the plethora of amazingness out there is beyond commendable. So I commend you :)  You both picked some incredible scenes.

Liz- I thank you for naming the 8/7/08 clip b/c I completely forgot it existed and I have rediscovered how awesome it is.

Dani- I cannot watch the Gentle as a Lamb w/out rewinding Liv going off on Rafe at least 5 times lol. Great pick.

I love your list but I would have to add the scene from 3/11/09 with the &quot;maybe God has someone for me but its just not who I expected.&quot; Great scene.

Yet again a pod filled with awesomeness. You guys rock my socks. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so the fact that you guys even ATTEMPTED to make a top ten list out of the plethora of amazingness out there is beyond commendable. So I commend you <img src='http://pancakesandavalium.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   You both picked some incredible scenes.</p>
<p>Liz- I thank you for naming the 8/7/08 clip b/c I completely forgot it existed and I have rediscovered how awesome it is.</p>
<p>Dani- I cannot watch the Gentle as a Lamb w/out rewinding Liv going off on Rafe at least 5 times lol. Great pick.</p>
<p>I love your list but I would have to add the scene from 3/11/09 with the &#8220;maybe God has someone for me but its just not who I expected.&#8221; Great scene.</p>
<p>Yet again a pod filled with awesomeness. You guys rock my socks. <img src='http://pancakesandavalium.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great podcast, as always. Dani I can&#039;t believe you actually said &quot;take a bath in hot lesbians&quot; you are way too funny, and the visual that popped into my head was just not right.

Fine choices by both of you for your top ten. I wrote down the dates of the eps and rewatched them, and it made me fall in love with Otalia all over again. My only complaint is that there was way to much Frank in some of these.

Maybe for JL&#039;s mat leave we can come up with top 5 least fav scenes (I bet they&#039;ll all probably happen this week).

Can&#039;t wait to hear the next podcast, we&#039;ll need some cheering up and you guys are all about the funny.

Thanks - Ana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great podcast, as always. Dani I can&#8217;t believe you actually said &#8220;take a bath in hot lesbians&#8221; you are way too funny, and the visual that popped into my head was just not right.</p>
<p>Fine choices by both of you for your top ten. I wrote down the dates of the eps and rewatched them, and it made me fall in love with Otalia all over again. My only complaint is that there was way to much Frank in some of these.</p>
<p>Maybe for JL&#8217;s mat leave we can come up with top 5 least fav scenes (I bet they&#8217;ll all probably happen this week).</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to hear the next podcast, we&#8217;ll need some cheering up and you guys are all about the funny.</p>
<p>Thanks &#8211; Ana</p>
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		<title>By: stargazzer77</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d agree with most of your choices but have to agree with Diane about the &quot;freaking superhero&quot; episode it&#039;s 1 of my favorites it&#039;s the 1st time Natalia (and we) get to see how Olivia see&#039;s her.

I think the argument they have after the Tower&#039;s family dinner and Olivia playin&#039; up to the two mum&#039;s calling Natalia honey would make my top 10, just because you see Natalia so worried about what people will think and Oliva&#039;s voice breaking as she say&#039;s &quot;it&#039;s none of their business&quot; it kind of reflects their positions since the wedding scenes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d agree with most of your choices but have to agree with Diane about the &#8220;freaking superhero&#8221; episode it&#8217;s 1 of my favorites it&#8217;s the 1st time Natalia (and we) get to see how Olivia see&#8217;s her.</p>
<p>I think the argument they have after the Tower&#8217;s family dinner and Olivia playin&#8217; up to the two mum&#8217;s calling Natalia honey would make my top 10, just because you see Natalia so worried about what people will think and Oliva&#8217;s voice breaking as she say&#8217;s &#8220;it&#8217;s none of their business&#8221; it kind of reflects their positions since the wedding scenes.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My too-long top ten.  Very October-centered because that&#039;s where I was in my re-watch when I started the list.  If it were any other month, well, let&#039;s just say difficult choices abound...

top - near kiss - for obvious and not obvious reasons.  when i was roped into this crazy otalia ride, i was started with the post-two mommies kiss.  i had no context for it, so while they were incredible scenes, it wasn&#039;t enough to get me on board [don&#039;t stone me, dj, and i won&#039;t stone you].  the near kiss in the hospital?  that is something easily understood without any context.  that hooked me - i particularly like porter&#039;s take on it.

10/10 - after natalia rescues olivia from photo shoot, she gets her out of the china trip.  &quot;do you trust me?&quot;  &quot;yes.&quot;  i miss the days when natalia was more overtly asserting herself, but i appreciate the quiet strength that has her running out on her own wedding, standing up to olivia (&quot;i know what it means when you tell someone you love them&quot;), standing up to fr. eyebrow, standing up to fripple, being honest about whether she can move back in with olivia, being honest about being out of her element (spa wkd), trying to figure out stuff with god, and dealing with her juvenile, just-out-of-the-clink son.  she&#039;s so present in each of these moments - it has always bothered me that she said &quot;i think of you all the time&quot; to olivia last week but i never get to see it because she&#039;s so present...but that&#039;s strength and honesty essential to her character and i&#039;m coming to grips with it.  i digress.

4/22 - &quot;i know what it means when you tell someone you love them.&quot;  for all of the very real things people feel and say when they&#039;re surprised to have declared their love for someone (out loud.  to you.) they never imagined loving.

10/13 - a lot of great one-liner from both o and nat and you can see o starting to form a &quot;friendship&quot; (as defined by dr. phil, of course).  in my view, this isn&#039;t the beginning of her love for nat - other than love for her as a friend - but there are definitely seeds.  she&#039;s not had a lot of women friends that she needs and can trust.  she&#039;s learning that nat can be that person.  important for her character arc (she&#039;s still mean), but also for their relationship.

10/22 - &quot;freaking superhero&quot; - again, i&#039;m watching october, but o is starting to push nat to be more than she has thought of herself - of course, &quot;more&quot; is standing on a stool in front of three &quot;staff&quot; members (one of three scenes that makes me laugh uncontrollably - in addition to the scene where o has a computer mouse around her neck as a prop and a scene from last week when frank and buzz are standing next to each other in company and their hair IS THE SAME).

X-mas - such an important moment for olivia and emma - she realizes how much emma misses out living at a hotel (duh) and it crops up every now and again (like when she ran into reva at the gas station).  one of the instances during which you see olivia really start to think about what she wants for herself and emma (i.e. a family).  she&#039;s also slowing figuring out that she wants to have that family with natalia.

can&#039;t remember the date, but the episode shortly after philip returns and terrified olivia is comforted by natalia who comforts her by telling her that they will fight together to keep emma from philip.  i think olivia is wearing a redish, pinkish scoop t that dani loves so much.

frank proposal.  i admit it.  i love angst.  one of my top favorite angst moments is when nat looks at olivia watching the proposal (and keeps looking for her when they are inside and hesitates when frank says we need to get married because of your religion [so that i can get in your pants]).  this scene follows JL/NR leaning against the FOL post, which CC talked about in her podcast.  if i were picking a place for them to kiss, it would be there.

olivia&#039;s toast.  more angst and part of the &quot;dance&quot; they do to avoid actually talking about what&#039;s going on between them.  love it.

olivia&#039;s graveyard confession.  no list is complete (though it is not terribly original) with CC&#039;s finest of many many fine performances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My too-long top ten.  Very October-centered because that&#8217;s where I was in my re-watch when I started the list.  If it were any other month, well, let&#8217;s just say difficult choices abound&#8230;</p>
<p>top &#8211; near kiss &#8211; for obvious and not obvious reasons.  when i was roped into this crazy otalia ride, i was started with the post-two mommies kiss.  i had no context for it, so while they were incredible scenes, it wasn&#8217;t enough to get me on board [don't stone me, dj, and i won't stone you].  the near kiss in the hospital?  that is something easily understood without any context.  that hooked me &#8211; i particularly like porter&#8217;s take on it.</p>
<p>10/10 &#8211; after natalia rescues olivia from photo shoot, she gets her out of the china trip.  &#8220;do you trust me?&#8221;  &#8220;yes.&#8221;  i miss the days when natalia was more overtly asserting herself, but i appreciate the quiet strength that has her running out on her own wedding, standing up to olivia (&#8221;i know what it means when you tell someone you love them&#8221;), standing up to fr. eyebrow, standing up to fripple, being honest about whether she can move back in with olivia, being honest about being out of her element (spa wkd), trying to figure out stuff with god, and dealing with her juvenile, just-out-of-the-clink son.  she&#8217;s so present in each of these moments &#8211; it has always bothered me that she said &#8220;i think of you all the time&#8221; to olivia last week but i never get to see it because she&#8217;s so present&#8230;but that&#8217;s strength and honesty essential to her character and i&#8217;m coming to grips with it.  i digress.</p>
<p>4/22 &#8211; &#8220;i know what it means when you tell someone you love them.&#8221;  for all of the very real things people feel and say when they&#8217;re surprised to have declared their love for someone (out loud.  to you.) they never imagined loving.</p>
<p>10/13 &#8211; a lot of great one-liner from both o and nat and you can see o starting to form a &#8220;friendship&#8221; (as defined by dr. phil, of course).  in my view, this isn&#8217;t the beginning of her love for nat &#8211; other than love for her as a friend &#8211; but there are definitely seeds.  she&#8217;s not had a lot of women friends that she needs and can trust.  she&#8217;s learning that nat can be that person.  important for her character arc (she&#8217;s still mean), but also for their relationship.</p>
<p>10/22 &#8211; &#8220;freaking superhero&#8221; &#8211; again, i&#8217;m watching october, but o is starting to push nat to be more than she has thought of herself &#8211; of course, &#8220;more&#8221; is standing on a stool in front of three &#8220;staff&#8221; members (one of three scenes that makes me laugh uncontrollably &#8211; in addition to the scene where o has a computer mouse around her neck as a prop and a scene from last week when frank and buzz are standing next to each other in company and their hair IS THE SAME).</p>
<p>X-mas &#8211; such an important moment for olivia and emma &#8211; she realizes how much emma misses out living at a hotel (duh) and it crops up every now and again (like when she ran into reva at the gas station).  one of the instances during which you see olivia really start to think about what she wants for herself and emma (i.e. a family).  she&#8217;s also slowing figuring out that she wants to have that family with natalia.</p>
<p>can&#8217;t remember the date, but the episode shortly after philip returns and terrified olivia is comforted by natalia who comforts her by telling her that they will fight together to keep emma from philip.  i think olivia is wearing a redish, pinkish scoop t that dani loves so much.</p>
<p>frank proposal.  i admit it.  i love angst.  one of my top favorite angst moments is when nat looks at olivia watching the proposal (and keeps looking for her when they are inside and hesitates when frank says we need to get married because of your religion [so that i can get in your pants]).  this scene follows JL/NR leaning against the FOL post, which CC talked about in her podcast.  if i were picking a place for them to kiss, it would be there.</p>
<p>olivia&#8217;s toast.  more angst and part of the &#8220;dance&#8221; they do to avoid actually talking about what&#8217;s going on between them.  love it.</p>
<p>olivia&#8217;s graveyard confession.  no list is complete (though it is not terribly original) with CC&#8217;s finest of many many fine performances.</p>
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		<title>By: vons0654</title>
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		<dc:creator>vons0654</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! First time to listen to your podcast.And of course,love love loving it! I agree with all of your choices and found myself nodding to every scene described. These moments played out in my head as if I was watching them all over again. I&#039;m soooo invested!Haha!

Well,another favorite episode of mine would be &quot;Nat saves the day&quot; (Oct. 6) And I&#039;m pretty hyped and biased about this because it&#039;s my birthday :) This episode was amazing, with the photoshoot, Olivia - the owner of the hotel -&quot;sprawled&quot; on her hotel room&#039;s bed and being stubborn and gorgeous. Then Nat taking the initiative to step in for Ollie. And geez, herself was looking mighty fine with the white jacket! But what most especially struck me was the way Liv looked at Nat and smiled while Nat was talking with Decker.It was a moment&#039;s work and can&#039;t help but get a thousand butterflies in my tummy seeing it!Olivia just looked utterly smitten.And then the &quot;she&#039;s mine.no poaching&quot; remark to Decker when he said that Nat was a &quot;keeper.&quot;Oh hell yeah Liv, she&#039;s yours obviously...perpetually...heavenly...blissfully...

And I&#039;ll just end it right there.Hehe.

I&#039;ll be listening to your previous podcasts and no doubt, you guys will have me laughing again and too, enlightened, with your interpretations and views, for things I would never have thought or seen initially for a particular episode. Appreciate your attention to details. Overall, you guys are simply doing a great job! Kudos to your fun analyses!


Listening to PaaV from the Philippines :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! First time to listen to your podcast.And of course,love love loving it! I agree with all of your choices and found myself nodding to every scene described. These moments played out in my head as if I was watching them all over again. I&#8217;m soooo invested!Haha!</p>
<p>Well,another favorite episode of mine would be &#8220;Nat saves the day&#8221; (Oct. 6) And I&#8217;m pretty hyped and biased about this because it&#8217;s my birthday <img src='http://pancakesandavalium.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  This episode was amazing, with the photoshoot, Olivia &#8211; the owner of the hotel -&#8221;sprawled&#8221; on her hotel room&#8217;s bed and being stubborn and gorgeous. Then Nat taking the initiative to step in for Ollie. And geez, herself was looking mighty fine with the white jacket! But what most especially struck me was the way Liv looked at Nat and smiled while Nat was talking with Decker.It was a moment&#8217;s work and can&#8217;t help but get a thousand butterflies in my tummy seeing it!Olivia just looked utterly smitten.And then the &#8220;she&#8217;s mine.no poaching&#8221; remark to Decker when he said that Nat was a &#8220;keeper.&#8221;Oh hell yeah Liv, she&#8217;s yours obviously&#8230;perpetually&#8230;heavenly&#8230;blissfully&#8230;</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll just end it right there.Hehe.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be listening to your previous podcasts and no doubt, you guys will have me laughing again and too, enlightened, with your interpretations and views, for things I would never have thought or seen initially for a particular episode. Appreciate your attention to details. Overall, you guys are simply doing a great job! Kudos to your fun analyses!</p>
<p>Listening to PaaV from the Philippines <img src='http://pancakesandavalium.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Difficult decisions.  For my top 3 pre-wedding scenes, I think I&#039;d have to go with:
1) The near kiss (and how it leads Natalia to take her rings off in the church)
2) The &quot;Maybe God has someone for me&quot; moment (do y&#039;all think that Olivia knew Natalia was talking about her or did she think N. was talking about Frank?  Discuss.)
3) When Olivia tells Natalia that she should marry Frank (don&#039;t stone me!  Let me explain!  It exposes Olivia&#039;s insecurities.  She&#039;s not jumping head-first into a relationship, consequences be damned, partly because she&#039;s putting Natalia&#039;s happiness above her own and partly because she&#039;s so in love with Natalia that if Natalia were to reject her, she would be completely shattered.  She&#039;s trying SO hard not to do that thing where you read more into your crush&#039;s every gesture and word than is there that she&#039;s missing all the signals Natalia actually *is* giving her.  Also, I am a slut for angst.  And maybe I cried when I saw that scene.)
4)  The scene in Doris&#039;s office where she defends Natalia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Difficult decisions.  For my top 3 pre-wedding scenes, I think I&#8217;d have to go with:<br />
1) The near kiss (and how it leads Natalia to take her rings off in the church)<br />
2) The &#8220;Maybe God has someone for me&#8221; moment (do y&#8217;all think that Olivia knew Natalia was talking about her or did she think N. was talking about Frank?  Discuss.)<br />
3) When Olivia tells Natalia that she should marry Frank (don&#8217;t stone me!  Let me explain!  It exposes Olivia&#8217;s insecurities.  She&#8217;s not jumping head-first into a relationship, consequences be damned, partly because she&#8217;s putting Natalia&#8217;s happiness above her own and partly because she&#8217;s so in love with Natalia that if Natalia were to reject her, she would be completely shattered.  She&#8217;s trying SO hard not to do that thing where you read more into your crush&#8217;s every gesture and word than is there that she&#8217;s missing all the signals Natalia actually *is* giving her.  Also, I am a slut for angst.  And maybe I cried when I saw that scene.)<br />
4)  The scene in Doris&#8217;s office where she defends Natalia.</p>
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