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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
		<link>http://pancakesandavalium.com/2009/07/279/comment-page-1/#comment-940</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Lana, I was also in HS during the Luke/Laura era and we always referred to the Herb Alpert song as &quot;music to be raped by&quot;.  Our group was split on Tony Geary&#039;s hotness (but we all loved Rick Springfield when he came on the show).  GH was so popular that after school got out at 1:40pm so we would literally run (pre-vcr days) to the house of whoever lived closest to school to watch at 2pm.


Looking back, it all seems so wrong that we were not that disturbed by this, but it was a different time and terms like &quot;date rape&quot; and &quot;acquaintance rape&quot; were not an everyday part of the lexicon and certainly not discussed even as part of a sex ed curriculum (and I attended a relatively forward thinking California school).  The shame is not that it happened but that they still have these sorts of plots.

On a more innocent note, we were completely consumed by whether Kristy MacNicoll would have sex with Leif Garrett on Family.  Compare that to 90210 version 1.0 just 10 years later where the question was not &quot;whether I should&quot; but &quot;who&#039;s next?&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Lana, I was also in HS during the Luke/Laura era and we always referred to the Herb Alpert song as &#8220;music to be raped by&#8221;.  Our group was split on Tony Geary&#8217;s hotness (but we all loved Rick Springfield when he came on the show).  GH was so popular that after school got out at 1:40pm so we would literally run (pre-vcr days) to the house of whoever lived closest to school to watch at 2pm.</p>
<p>Looking back, it all seems so wrong that we were not that disturbed by this, but it was a different time and terms like &#8220;date rape&#8221; and &#8220;acquaintance rape&#8221; were not an everyday part of the lexicon and certainly not discussed even as part of a sex ed curriculum (and I attended a relatively forward thinking California school).  The shame is not that it happened but that they still have these sorts of plots.</p>
<p>On a more innocent note, we were completely consumed by whether Kristy MacNicoll would have sex with Leif Garrett on Family.  Compare that to 90210 version 1.0 just 10 years later where the question was not &#8220;whether I should&#8221; but &#8220;who&#8217;s next?&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lana, Snapper, Whatever</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lana, Snapper, Whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A special link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF-aPjhbI8E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A special link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF-aPjhbI8E" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF-aPjhbI8E</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nathalie</title>
		<link>http://pancakesandavalium.com/2009/07/279/comment-page-1/#comment-938</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lana on Paav! Now if we can only get Porter to visit the podcast and sing my life will be complete...or at least I&#039;ll stop nagging her about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lana on Paav! Now if we can only get Porter to visit the podcast and sing my life will be complete&#8230;or at least I&#8217;ll stop nagging her about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://pancakesandavalium.com/2009/07/279/comment-page-1/#comment-937</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riot- I&#039;ll take the butt.  And yay for thumb ring gayness.  Only gay girls wear thumb rings.  It like cargo shorts.  Leave the gaydar in your pocket- answer is gay.

And I can confirm with my top secret inside info that Lana does rock, and that she and wannabe are two different IPs.

And if Richard Simmons owned that disco, that would make Richard Simmons 35% more awesome.

XO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riot- I&#8217;ll take the butt.  And yay for thumb ring gayness.  Only gay girls wear thumb rings.  It like cargo shorts.  Leave the gaydar in your pocket- answer is gay.</p>
<p>And I can confirm with my top secret inside info that Lana does rock, and that she and wannabe are two different IPs.</p>
<p>And if Richard Simmons owned that disco, that would make Richard Simmons 35% more awesome.</p>
<p>XO</p>
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		<title>By: tallulah71</title>
		<link>http://pancakesandavalium.com/2009/07/279/comment-page-1/#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator>tallulah71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aww, Luke and Laura. Didn&#039;t Richard Simmons own that disco where Luke raped Laura? I was too young to understand what was going on, so I was totally in love with Luke and Laura. Although, Tiffany and Sean were a close second. I loved Tiffany. Her reaction, when Laura came back from the dead was the best.

Thanks for all the backstory, Lana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww, Luke and Laura. Didn&#8217;t Richard Simmons own that disco where Luke raped Laura? I was too young to understand what was going on, so I was totally in love with Luke and Laura. Although, Tiffany and Sean were a close second. I loved Tiffany. Her reaction, when Laura came back from the dead was the best.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the backstory, Lana.</p>
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		<title>By: Lana, Snapper, Whatever</title>
		<link>http://pancakesandavalium.com/2009/07/279/comment-page-1/#comment-935</link>
		<dc:creator>Lana, Snapper, Whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for having me on - it was such fun, and you chicks are just about the coolest part of the whole Otalia phenomena. I would do this again, any old time.

Also? I swear on my grandmother&#039;s grave that I do not go by the alias &quot;wannaB&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for having me on &#8211; it was such fun, and you chicks are just about the coolest part of the whole Otalia phenomena. I would do this again, any old time.</p>
<p>Also? I swear on my grandmother&#8217;s grave that I do not go by the alias &#8220;wannaB&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wannaB</title>
		<link>http://pancakesandavalium.com/2009/07/279/comment-page-1/#comment-934</link>
		<dc:creator>wannaB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lana rocks!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lana rocks!!!</p>
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		<title>By: riot</title>
		<link>http://pancakesandavalium.com/2009/07/279/comment-page-1/#comment-933</link>
		<dc:creator>riot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lizz - I &#039;like&#039; you too, I might just snack back what I said. Either that, or I&#039;ll show you my butt.

In related news... Yesterday I met Doris. Doris is lovely, caring, strong and wonderfully insane. And gay. big fat thumb-ring gay. She made me smile. Thumb-ring gayness makes me ridiculously happy sometimes. I gave her a bottle of wine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lizz &#8211; I &#8216;like&#8217; you too, I might just snack back what I said. Either that, or I&#8217;ll show you my butt.</p>
<p>In related news&#8230; Yesterday I met Doris. Doris is lovely, caring, strong and wonderfully insane. And gay. big fat thumb-ring gay. She made me smile. Thumb-ring gayness makes me ridiculously happy sometimes. I gave her a bottle of wine.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://pancakesandavalium.com/2009/07/279/comment-page-1/#comment-932</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 14:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riot- I like you.  Im going to pretend you didn&#039;t say that.

Notoaster- Lana&#039;s awesome, isnt she?

Ashlee- like icewoman said, a lot of the clips are up on youtube.

Ana- It was Miley.  Because I am nine years old.

Selma- Glad we could help, that will be $125.  :D  And don&#039;t encourage Dani.  She&#039;ll have that shit up on youtube so fast your head will spin.

XO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riot- I like you.  Im going to pretend you didn&#8217;t say that.</p>
<p>Notoaster- Lana&#8217;s awesome, isnt she?</p>
<p>Ashlee- like icewoman said, a lot of the clips are up on youtube.</p>
<p>Ana- It was Miley.  Because I am nine years old.</p>
<p>Selma- Glad we could help, that will be $125.  <img src='http://pancakesandavalium.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   And don&#8217;t encourage Dani.  She&#8217;ll have that shit up on youtube so fast your head will spin.</p>
<p>XO</p>
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		<title>By: SelmaHinkley</title>
		<link>http://pancakesandavalium.com/2009/07/279/comment-page-1/#comment-931</link>
		<dc:creator>SelmaHinkley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, guys.  I really needed this after all of the angst and sadness.  You two are like my weekly (and sometimes in between) trip to the chiropractor&#039;s...not that there&#039;s any validity to me having a chiropractor...or a need for me to visit her regularly.  I guess what I&#039;m saying is that you guys de-stressed me just in time for the holiday weekend. Thanks.

By the by, Dani, I think your show idea is great.  I have a vague recollection--maybe from one of my amnesia periods--of a similar show where the host offered cash for dares, only when the person denied the cash, he would increase the amount until the person agreed.  Something along those lines.  Like I said, it&#039;s all pretty vague.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, guys.  I really needed this after all of the angst and sadness.  You two are like my weekly (and sometimes in between) trip to the chiropractor&#8217;s&#8230;not that there&#8217;s any validity to me having a chiropractor&#8230;or a need for me to visit her regularly.  I guess what I&#8217;m saying is that you guys de-stressed me just in time for the holiday weekend. Thanks.</p>
<p>By the by, Dani, I think your show idea is great.  I have a vague recollection&#8211;maybe from one of my amnesia periods&#8211;of a similar show where the host offered cash for dares, only when the person denied the cash, he would increase the amount until the person agreed.  Something along those lines.  Like I said, it&#8217;s all pretty vague.</p>
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