The parking lot is just another example of lazy writing… if you don’t have a lot, don’t write a scene that takes place in one!!

I think I would have liked the Josh/Olivia bedroom scenes if Josh’s chest hair hadn’t been that distracting… seriously, does it grow like that naturally? And if it doesn’t, why on earth would you groom it like this???

I don’t like the Nat that returned… even her dimples don’t make up for the fact that she’s behaving so, well, I can’t think of a nice word…

However, there was a report on NPR that a couple of Catholic nunneries are under review by the Catholic church for, well, I’m not exactly sure what, but for offences against Catholic teachings or the Catholic Church in general… I’m pretty sure Natalia was at one of those if she’s coming back determined to be with Olivia

Dani – If shagging anyone around here would have gotten us an Otalia kiss we’d be up to full on sex romps by now. But I know you mean in which case you’d likely have to give it up to some asinine CBS chauvinist and I’m not okay with that. Not. At. All. We’d be better served holding those asshats to ransom … who am I kidding, no one would bail them out.

Nik – I unashamedly well up thinking of that scene myself. I’m a sap when Natalia complements Olivia like that because aside from the fact it doesn’t happen enough, the way she says how beautiful her paramour is, is so imbued with love…. which is why the wooing works for me in the current storyline and as awesome as their “connection without any visible intimacy” was, I imagine actualized physical expression to be nigh on ethereal.

Kristy – about point 1: yeah definitely you … Olivia said no to those cookies cuz those aren’t regular cookies, oh no, they’re magic cookies which spur marriage proposals and doe eyed fawning. Olivia is powerless enough already.

Kish – I didn’t realize a person made of pure marsmallowy goodnees/softness could prevail in such a cruel ass world .

Lana – You Rule! Nuff said.

Speaking of Olivia letting the love show, I think I have rewatched the elevator scene from this week maybe more than any other clip (or it’s at least tied with the bench scoot).

My heart isn’t in complaining anymore. I’m loving Otalia this week and I take it all back.

I actually squealed yesterday and had to pause it to regain my composure when I saw Natalia appear behind Olivia. I’m pretty sure she sprouted wings for a second.

So beautiful.

Anyway, the point is, I think we’re all communicating some kind of frustration in one way or another. But, we can wait. We’re really patient. We love each other and we can work it out.

i am sooooo hanging my head about this s/l right now. the only good things this week are 1. i just so love to see them together, and b. i am a paav whore (pants still on though) and y’all never fail to come through. i heart you so much for keeping it so funny and entertaining and snarky and witty…and dani phoning it in is obviously NOT the same as everyone else on gl (except cc) phoning it in…what a fucking sad hot heaping mess of bullshit…pod natalia has returned as moron dumbass totally assassinated character natalia… throw away scenes that seem like filler which all make me pitch a fit because, in case they need a clue, YOU’RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME YOU ASSHATS!!! choppy editing that makes no freakin’ sense … shitty douchy music … continuity issues up the whazzoo (who knows how to spell that?) … and the value village wardrobe? wtf??? they obviously sold off all of liv’s sharp, sexy clothes during the same yard sale that saw them liquidate all of the handheld camera tripods … either that or they have already let all of the camerapeople go and emma is on a stepstool pulling double duty. actually, maybe she’s directing the scenes too? hmmm…ice cream and popsicles and teetertotters, oh my…

seriously though, i really feel like every person other than cc and jl (who still seem committed to this sl and their fans) has already closed the book on the g/l chapter in their lives, and their hearts and minds seem to have moved on to whatever next project they have lined up in their futures. so not win….and further!!! this is all making my life hell since my partner (she of the “i can’t believe you’ve for this exploitive/homophobic/misogynistic/harmful to queers and women in general sl” sentiment) is so singing the “i told you so” song…recall the scene of nat outside looking at the photo? i’m like, awww, she’s gushing over the family pic of her and emma and liv, and she’s like, no, it’s the sonogram of the frankenspawn……i’m so not taking my pants off for her either.

this is from my first otalia post on ae:

“…as lesbians – we are so starved for mainstream tv s/l’s that actually speak to us that we are willing to settle for anything that might remotely reflect our lives, our relationships (be they romantic or otherwise – i’m even including the in-depth exploration of intimate, platonic friendships among women, straight or gay) that i become so completely drawn into the outcome of this storyline. having said that, i can’t stop watching – whether it ends up becoming a fantastic tale of love or, at the end of the day, an horrific train wreck… but it’s so sad that we have to pay such a high price, and I don’t want to settle for crumbs…”

*walks among the wreckage looking for crumbs*

thought that’d make me feel better…
not so much

liz, i really miss hearing you say ‘this is really layered’ too…

dani – your rooftop date to make it up to liz better not be breakfast – unless it’s after a wild night of eating muffins – er,cookies – in bed…

I liked today’s Natalia a whole lot more. JL deserves a lot better than coming back from maternity leave to play a moronic bitch. Today’s Nat was a lot more like the Nat I like..and she indicated a little bit of self-awareness, which goes a long way.

Ana- Yay for criers! I will try to pull back on the P word. It just happens man. Just happens. I have sons. Penises are part of my life….

Lana- obviously I didnt make my point well in the middle of the night. But whatevs. I didnt think she needed to re group, I think she needed to touch base with her contact people. blahblahblah, how much do I love that Lillian is the total peace maker for everyone right now? A lot.

Dani- <3 Take off your pants and tell me I’m pretty.

Lisa- I dont know what we are doing back in March. Apparently because the show was amazing back then the writers plan to recapture that by doing it again, which is fine- but makes no damn sense.

Kristy-
1. I think Olivia actually has a ton of self control when it comes to Nat, and when it comes to self preservation. Olivia doesnt get weak, doesnt feel pain when others tell her to- she does it on her own schedule. She would tell Natalia to F off at this point, so I’m fine with that.
2. I dont know about that either. To me, Natalia knows just how much to push Olivia, and is doing it pretty well. Olivia is too external, she will probably be getting lots of outside voices telling her to go for it with Nat soon, and thats how things will heal. I dont think Nat pushing would help. But, what do I know?
3. Ditto.
4. Ditto.
5. Ooops. Sorry about that. We’ll try to hold back the flirting next week. Or at least make Dani sing “Its getting hot in heer” again.
Hi Kristy’s hot girlfriend!!

Kish- You are impossibly awesome and we love ya bunches. Thank you so much for your friendship and support, we are so blessed to have you. Mushy stuff mushy stuff. <3 We’ll see you soon hot stuff! I’ll owe you a mojito for helping out this week.

Jen- Its only a date because it’s funny as hell to call it that. Haha! This storyline, even if it is ending in a way that we’re not in love with- has done a ton of good for sure. We appreciate its contribution for sure, which is why we’re still talking about it. And the flirting- that keeps me coming back. How cute is flirty Dani?

JCF- Im glad you can’t quit us. Even if we disagree, we’re glad to have your thoughts babe! Sorry to kill your buzz though.

Y’all are really too sweet. We love you guys!

XO Liz

Liz&Dani, you still bring da funny (and Kish, you’re a nice addition).

But I’m just on such a different page from most (all?) of y’all here.

With the SINGLE exception of Olivia pushing Frank towards Natalia again on Wednesday (WTF? Thankfully, that beat of the sl seemed to have been dropped, for good, by Friday!), and Rafe’s, well, Rafe-ness (Does anyone else think that King Oedipus has NUTHIN’ on Natalia’s baby boy, w/ the f’ed-up over-involvement w/ his “Maaaaaa!”), I loved EVERYTHING about last week’s Otalia. Yes, Olivia’s tank-top&cargo pants ensemble. Yes, Natalia’s back-turning in the park (Think “Boxing Match”: Natalia has just gone to her corner to re-group). Yes, EVERYTHING about the way Natalia is explaining herself to Olivia. Love her (Me! Me! Me!) or hate her, I see her explanation (content&method) as entirely consistent w/ Who Natalia Is (both prior to her departure, and now). The Oblivious Clueness/Clueless Obliviousness? That you KNOW is going run off the tracks when it hits Roadblock (Trackblock? Sorry, Liz! ) Olivia? That’s precisely WHO Olivia fell in love with.

I mean, hey, roll your eyes at Olivia’s “Smart (Sexy!) Woman, Foolish Choices” Schtick, but gf wubs her lil’ Catholic Space Cadet (so do I—or did I already mention it? ;-D)

Has anyone else (Myers-Briggs) “Typed” Our Grrlz?

Natalia is a CLASSIC “S”: Sensate type. Not a clue-bone (Ew, now I said “bone”!) in her body. [I'm guessing ISFJ: an SJ totally fits the (formerly) rigid Catholicism]

Natch’, Olivia is an “N” [ENFJ, I would guess]. Nat’s “S” drives Liv’s iNtuitivity crazy . . . but that’s in BOTH senses of crazy ;-p (Damn you CBS censors, we only get to see the bad kind of crazy!)

Bottomline: love you guys (all you PaaV people) . . . but you’re killing my buzz. Otalia Rocks . . . Yes, including the writers (when the editors don’t cut it all to sh*t anyway). ‘Nuff said (Maybe you can serve me some Kool-Aid next week? )

I’m having a great time with our girls. No spoilers for me…spoiler virgin, like snow white on her wedding night. I’m a die hard romantic…grew up reading Anne of Green Gables and moved right on to those stupid Harlequin romance books. The way that Olivia looks at Natalia…woman in love have never been represented in such a visceral way.

If this story line helps one teenage girl feel a little better about her weird feelings about her best friend…it will have all been worth it.

That said…it could have been finished with a lot more class.

Liz…I can’t believe you agree with my ex wife. I was not on a date. How can I be on a date if I didn’t know it??? That was a clueless cop story not a bad date story…damn
Jen

Liz and Dani are far too modest, because if you only knew the incredible circumstances behind this pod, you would then know the true meaning of the word awesome. In fact there was more drama behind this pod than the entire week of Otalia – for reals, I’m still amazed it happened. I was certainly giving Natalia a run for her money on the prayer department on whether Dani would make it, I cannot tell you how happy I was to hear her voice! And yes, I still laughed like a hysterical goofball when Dani unexpectedly segues to her Miss Cleo voice. And Liz, not only were you winning as always (can’t tell you how tempted I am to turn “Shitstorm!” into a ringtone), I don’t know how you managed to still pour editing genius into this one (when Liz says its 2am, that’s 2am Monday morning people!); it was all sorts of brilliant.

Lynda, Porter, Heather – thanks for the kind words. I would never pretend to be up to level of Liz & Dani; for myself its hard not to just wanna sit back and let them do their thing – its what made me an instant fan after stumbling upon their very first pod many moons ago, and hopefully we’ll get to continue to enjoy PaaV well after Sept 18. At this point, I’m just as passionate about PaaV as I am/was about GL, and that’s saying a lot, so whatever small thing I can do to support them, its time well, well spent.