PaaV Podcast #22

stargazzer77 on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 10:18 am 

This week i said “aaawwwwwwwww, so cute” so many times in a high pitched voice, i may have to start wearing pink and carring a pocket pooch around in my purse…..

SelmaHinkley on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 10:53 am 

Nooooooo. Don’t tell me that I only have you guys for another week! This SUCKS…Schweddy balls.

I got “meowed” awake by my cat at 6:30 IN THE MORNING and couldn’t go back to sleep. It took the realization that you guys had a new pod up to tame my inner bitch. How am I supposed to stay level without the promise of new PAAV updates? FUCBS, you’re forcing me to seek actual psychiatric assessment!

Liz, thanks for getting Dani to do the Ms. Cleo voice again. It came at the most opportune moment. I was distracted, thinking, “Duh, Dani, what a stupid question. Obviously Olivia was talking to U-Haul. It makes sense later when she tells Natalia about securing the moving van.” Then, Dani goes into her shtick. I LOVED it! The thought of Olivia Spencer contacting Ms. Cleo: genius! I almost missed the extra footage at the end, but my gut told me to replay your ending.

(un)Meeting of minds. You guys should disagree more often. It’s cute.

Prohibition. Seriously, Dani? I must admit that I laughed, but you’re nerdiness was really showing on that one

Request. Please don’t go! Geeze, I just fucked myself. I now have that crappy ’90s song in my head. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIAnkrPgTvY

Heather on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 12:41 pm 

Am I the only one who thought that Jonathan’s reaction to Liv’s gf revelation was a little creepy gross? It was totally “I’ll be picturing that later tonight.” I mean, had Tom Pelphrey heard this news about Crystal Chappell, this reaction would have been marginally acceptable. But Jonathan wholeheartedly appreciating that Olivia, who for all intents and purposes is his aunt, now dines at the Y? So not ok.

lana on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 12:42 pm 

I don’t lie – Liz just has bad taste. She digs Josh, with his creepy jazz hands, slow “ladies man” style of talking, and awful vintage G.I. Joe hair and beard, but she disses young, gorgeous Matt. You know who agrees with me about young Matt being beautiful? Tina And Maeve. And, I’m sorry, but Tina and Maeve trump Liz and DJ. And Dani’s “Matt is cute in an old-school way” is just another example of agism from precosious teens. The Anti-Defamation Leagueand Grey Panthers will be contacting you, shortly.

Speaking of agism, you’re both too young to know a damned thing about thumb rings. Long before anyone decided thumb rings were some sort of lesbian secret signal, they were popularized by Cindy Crawford, somewhere around 1882 – way before she ever thought about doing a faux lesbian magazine cover. Long before you were born(you guys were born around 1993 or so, right?) thumb rings were the domain very hetero NYC girls who wanted to look more like a super model. That said, why the hell are you giving Dani such a hard time, Liz? If she wants to imagine a secret Sapphic symbol on CC’s hand, let her have that one little morsel. It’s not like there are Otalia kisses or sex scenes to keep her happy.

Re Rafe; I don’t even buy the argument that there was no time to make his switcheroo easier to swallow. If they had just inserted one or two lines into his conversations with Ashlee, it would have gone a long way. If he’d just asked Ashlee, “Doesn’t it gross you out that your mother’s gay?” and she’d answered, “No. Why would it gross me out? If it makes her happy, then it doesn’t bother me. I’m pissed off because she’s kept the truth from me and acted like a bitch.” That would have taken- what? Maybe a whole ten seconds. A couple of lines like that and then a good shot of Rafe thinking about it (ouch, that hurts) would have made his change of heart a lot more believable and less ridiculous.

It’s so nice to hear the two of you sounding happy again (when Liz isn’t going out of her way to stomp on Dani’s dreams, that is.)

Melanie on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 1:06 pm 

Mojitos and Prohibition are I think a bit anachronistic, so the sentiment of the metaphor was apt, but the idea of people sitting in speakeasies drinking Mojitos seemed a bit odd, at least to my mind’s movie-inflected vision of Prohibition. Although geek kudos for trying to tie in one of the more ridiculous chapters of our nation’s history.

And I thought Jonathan’s reaction was funny…I took it less that he was mentally leering but more that he was teasing Olivia as a close relative may do.

And, not only was it random for Josh to show up at the farmhouse, but he left behind at Company the two babies whom he had volunteered to babysit.

Speaking of babies and Company, my partner and I thought that when Olivia showed up to help with the baby-naming that she reached behind Natalia’s barstool and pinched her. Did anyone else see that? I was expecting Liz and Dani to give me some clarification, but they failed me, or perhaps I was just hallucinating.

toastedgrrl on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 1:21 pm 

Happy #22 = happy commute and aimlessly driving to listen to the podcast.

The happy and mushy and squishy of this week nearly knocked the bitter right out of me. I was in freaking tears watching the moving day and ensuing softball game… and as a Blis fan, the brief moment where Olivia, Natalia, Doris, and Blake were standing on the porch together pretty much made my day.

I’m kinda w/Lana re: Kurt McKinney/Matt. Thanks to her, I watched most of what is available on YouTube for the Matt/Vanessa storyline a month or so ago and now swoon for them hard. Matt is totally dreamy!! But so is Josh…

Rafe’s miraculous turnaround is a rather offensive joke considering the massive amounts of homophobia that were streaming from his pores. He told his mother that she and Olivia were going to hell! But I guess his endgame was to join PFLAG, so there ya go.

So yeah… thanks for another awesome podcast. I’m looking forward to many, many more. I don’t care if you talk about Venice or dyke drama or politics or consumer reviews of household appliances… just be here (at your convenience, of course).

crystaleyesed on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 1:32 pm 

Liz, thanks for shooting down the thumb ring thing. Apparently everything Olivia does and wears is so lesbian now. The thumb ring, hands in the pockets, having a black ponytail holder on her wrist to tie her hair back later, etc. I must have lesbian tendencies that I don’t know about (and some I do) and missed the memo because I do/wear or have done/worn those things, too. One step away from getting my straight card revoked.

Yeah, the moving van/truck was so not necessary. It’s not like she had the penthouse suite at the Beacon (although, now that I think about it, she should have. And if the Beacon doesn’t have one, she could have gotten one built). And about loading things into the elevator, everyone else can do that, but Natalia’s afraid of elevators. Not that the show is consistent with its history or anything. You can see her freak out at the beginning of this episode. Is it mean of me to think this is a little bit funny?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWK9KXQUZuo

I made that same comment about the marked boxes on the last podcast. I’m thinking maybe Frank D. just got the wrong box for that scene and she had to direct one of them to Emma’s room.

And ew, Matt’s not gorgeous at all. Josh, yes, but he aged well. He wasn’t all that great looking when he was younger. Maybe there’s still a chance for Matt. Maybe.

Melanie- Olivia didn’t pinch Natalia behind the barstool. People made such a big thing about that. Someone tweeted Crystal about that and she said she was just hanging her purse on the back of it…though there may have been an innocent brush in the process.

PS. Dani’s right, Adessa’s an ugly name.

lana on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 1:48 pm 

It’s Odessa. It’s a nice, Greek name. What do you expect from a guy whose middle name is Achilles? Frank needed to in get one, final reminder that the Coopers are Greek. It’s been months since we’ve been had this fact hammered into our heads.

Did you know Frank’s Dicopoulous’ birth name is Frank Dickos? Because, from a developmental standpoint, I’m about 8 yrs old, I find that very funny.

Dani on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 2:09 pm 

Ya’ll are so mean about the thumb ring! Just like Liz. And here I thought there’d be a bunch of people telling Liz she’s mean! Dammit, let me enjoy my imagined symbolism.

stargazzer – That was pretty much my reaction for the entire week.

Selma – Luckily I have professed to being a complete dork many, many, many times. I had to do Ms. Cleo again so Liz would stop bugging me about it. I’m thoroughly embarrassed she added the outtakes of it at the end. Cue the blush.

Heather – I guess I was more imagining Tom Pelphrey. Or really, I just thought he was like, “wow…rad.” I get enough creepy overload with Josh, blah.

Lana – That’s it, I’m retracting my thumb ring comment. There, everyone happy? I agree with you about Rafe, it was sloppy. But his asshattery isn’t completely gone, as we saw on today’s show. It just felt oddly Partridge Family last week. You’ll have to excuse my underappreciation of Matt – I’ve been busy studying for my driver’s license test.

Melanie – I wish I could say I’d thoroughly researched alcoholic cocktails during prohibition, but I didn’t. The geek just flows. Perhaps I should have said whiskey, but I don’t really like that shit. I agree with you re: Jonathan’s reaction.

toastedgrrl – You and Lana can enjoy yourself with Matt pin-ups. Rafe is a douche, but the less douchey he acts outwardly, the more I can focus on sexy cuteness from Otalia. The realism train de-railed somewhere back in Headbuttsville.

crystaleyesed – Oh, now we’re applauding Liz being a meanie? Okay, I see how it is. I agree with you re: Matt. Sorry Lana! Yup, Liz is not allowed to name any of my kids. Adessa? No, just no.

Nik on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 3:18 pm 

I’ve decided to let go of any issues I’ve had with story/character/continuity/etc., and just enjoy what has developed the last couple of weeks. Once Olivia did that beautiful little belly rub at the BBQ (I’ve replaced this little family-fest into my memory files where the July 4th fiasco used to reside), I was able to jump completely on board the baby wagon. This will be a good focus for them and such a great way to bring the other characters into their lives. But, there’s one major piece of the Farmhouse Family missing………..

After the writers spent a good week on baby names, they totally blanked on the most important issue – what is going to be the kid’s nickname? C’mon, ‘Jellybean’ is the greatest term of endearment I’ve ever heard (it doesn’t hurt that Crystal is the one saying it), and we need something just as awesome for the newbie.

In sticking with the candy theme, we could go for ‘tootsie roll’, or maybe ‘my little milk dud’. I’d even be ok with ‘chiclet’ or ‘lollipop’.

But the best one I can think of would be ‘jujube”. Go ahead, say ‘jujube’ out loud. Now picture Olivia saying it. Now picture Olivia saying ‘jujube’ nice and slow to Natalia. Now picture…….well, I’ll leave you alone for a minute to savor that one.

lana on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 3:31 pm 

The baby will be named Alexandra the Grape

Kristeena on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 3:49 pm 

I got the creepy vibe from Johnathan too but we must remember he is not above pervin out over a family member. He did marry and have lots of sex with his first cousin tammy who was cassie’s daughter cassie is reva’s sister sooo yeah.

lana on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 4:28 pm 

But he didn’t grow up with Tammy or even know she existed until they were both adults. Reva didn’t raise him, and even she didn’t know Cassie was her half-sister. If Jonathan perved out with Liv, it’d be really sick – they share a relationship pretty much from the day he was born. She was in his life, as an aunt, for years that Reva wasn’t.

That said – he didn’t perv out. He’s supposed to be a badass rebel, and he tinks dykes are cool. The kiss on the lips was an ad lib by CC – she said so on twitter.

crystaleyesed on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 5:30 pm 

Odessa? That’s even worse. And also random since they were talking about ‘A’ names.

bonita on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 5:50 pm 

nice to have the lighthearted happy babes back–i mean you liz and dani. just one point… about the clothes going to blake. first wasn’t it cute the way liv told a pouting nat to “stop it”? but more importantly, um… hello!!! liv is moving out of her hotel not her hotel room. i think she could afford to pony up a few pennies for a new outfit or two for beloved. i mean, they never did make up for the cancelled shopping trip. hmm, could someone please point them to the lingerie department first.

dani… stay strong on the thumb ring.

Lynda on Mon, 14th Sep 2009 7:15 pm 

Symbolism is not imagined if it’s corroborated by at least one other person Dani and I’m with you on the thumb ring. So too is Doris’ bar tending girlfriend as she too is sporting one. Just sayin’

Hell Yes! to more outtakes cuz Liz is totally the immature one, you can’t hide behind withheld audio that resides on the cutting room floor woman

Chelsea on Tue, 15th Sep 2009 2:00 am 

Dani I’m with you on the thumb ring. I’ll take what I can get. Don’t let Liz keep you down.

Nik on Tue, 15th Sep 2009 7:53 am 

In the moving in scene, when Liv directs Rafe to the bathroom, she had a little mumbly ‘ad lib’ that I didn’t get. CC is usually so good with her off the cuff inserts. and this one didn’t seem that funny….the bathroom as a nice place to visit?

It just occurred to me though, that this shot must have been on the last day of filming when all the bathrooms were busted

Melanie on Tue, 15th Sep 2009 8:59 am 

Crystaleyesed–thanks for the clarification on the pinching, although in my world I don’t like to think of their touching as “innocent”. My partner makes that face when she pinches people, but perhaps given our age we just make faces any time exertion is required.

Lana–the rampant ageism is so depressing. The 80’s will no longer hold any happy memories for me of toga parties, Duran Duran or Flock of Seagulls, but will simply be the time when I was cute in “an old school way”. I would send a picture to prove it but don’t know how to convert my Kodak DiscCamera prints to digital.

As for the guy debate, I’m not sure why this has to be a zero sum game. For my money, Josh, Matt and Phillip all were and still are hot, but I guess I’m easy. The promos for other shows really leave me cold with the lack of hotness (both for guys and girls) and I don’t know if I can force myself to watch Days.

Nathalie on Tue, 15th Sep 2009 9:39 am 

Dani – first football and now a thumb ring? I think we need to talk…

Liz on Tue, 15th Sep 2009 10:18 am 

Nat- Dani told me she thinks she might like girls? I’m sure its just a phase.

Dani on Tue, 15th Sep 2009 10:36 am 

I hate you guys!

Also, I will argue with you forever about how completely rad football is. I’m not that attached to the thumb ring argument.

Apparently I’m lame and didn’t know it until you and Liz pointed it out.

Nathalie on Tue, 15th Sep 2009 12:30 pm 

You’re not lame, baby. It’s just that Melissa Etheridge emailed me this morning from her AOL account and would like her style back.

She says you can just come to her window and drop it off.

Dani on Tue, 15th Sep 2009 12:36 pm 

Melissa Etheridge, oh come on. That one hurt! You’re lucky you’re funny, otherwise I’d be pouting like mad right now.

Also, I’m not the one attending WNBA games. Just saying.

lana on Tue, 15th Sep 2009 1:51 pm 

I think Dani’s thumb ring theory would have been easier for Liz to swallow if the internet weren’t bombarded with lesbian conspiracy theories every time Crystal Chappell scratched her ass, or some shade of purple turned up on the sctreen. The online gushing over that little piece of jewelry was sort of embarassing. Sometimes a ring really is just a ring. The other day one of the male characters on the show had something purple on and some folks were actually tweeting that “it must be his shout out to the Otalia fanbase!!!’ Stretching much?

Except for this ridiculous obsession with football, Dani, you seem like a pretty sensible person, not prone to suspecting hidden meanings around every corner so, no, you’re not lame. BTW, have you considered switching your sportsman allegiances from gridiron to bareback rodeo riding? It’s a sport, you know.

Dani on Tue, 15th Sep 2009 2:18 pm 

Well, I admit I don’t read the ridiculous gushing tweets about everything from purple ties to butterflies with purple antennae – so I had no idea everyone jumped on the ring thing.

It’s not a ridiculous obsession, damn you all! Anyone who watched that game last night was treated to one of the greatest comebacks on monday night football, courtesy of HRH Tom Brady.

Anyway, you’re still a bunch of hoochies, and I will vigorously defend my fashion sense. Just not my lesbian hipness.

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